BBQ and Slide out tray

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Being on the road full time for a few years we wanted to make sure things like cooking at the BBQ would be easy, so I invested in a slide-out tray from Australian Direct. I chose the Kickass 125kg slide with an inbuilt table – link here. After looking around at a few of the cheaper ones (Kings) I was not satisfied with how long they would last.

Mounting this in the tunnel boot looked like it was going to be a mission, so the first idea was to remove the slide from the base so I could work on it easier. The made a huge difference! The slide came with bolts and nutserts, but I preferred to use stainless steel screws that didn’t quite penetrate through the 16mm flooring. So I used 18mm long screws, a washer on top, through the steel frame, predrilled a hole in the galvanized sheeting, and screwed it down with 12 screws – it’s not going anywhere!

You will notice it’s not mounted in the middle, I purposely mounted it as far forward as it would go. This allows the anti-flap bars from the awning to sit beside it.

Once that was completed it was a simple case of sitting the BBQ on the tray and securing it for travel. The tray came with two straps to hold a fridge down so I just used those.

Originally I had a Weber single burner, but they are just too high to slide in unless you remove the lid or cut down the legs, neither idea thrilled me, so I updated it to a Ziggy. After using the Ziggy for 6 months, a lot of the time trying to use pots or fry pans, it just wasn’t working for us either. So I looked around and found the Sizzler Deluxe. These are an all-stainless steel BBQ, made in Australia (in the Newcastle area), and are the only portable one (that I am aware of) that has the Flame-Out Detection. Comes standard with a 3mm thick stainless steel hotplate, we opted for the hotplate mesh too so it could be used for pots and pans (works well too). These are also dual burners and put out over double the heat of the Weber and Ziggy (Weber – 8,500 BTU, Ziggy – 9,993 BTU, Sizzler – 20,000 BTU). They also offer a 3mm thick stainless steel baking tray that sits in the back half of the cooking area so you have the front burner on only (no direct flames to the baking dish). We didn’t get that as we rarely bake.

Flame Out Detection:

Let’s take a slight detour and look at what this means. Back around 2016 (or probably earlier), the rules for gas installations changed, this included Caravans. However, only recently in the 2021 update to the regulations did they reword it so everyone started to take notice! The bottom line is any fixed appliance to the caravan must have flame-out detection which then shuts off the gas supply.

So what is a fixed installation? Anything mounted to the caravan AND/OR connected to a fixed gas line on the caravan. So this means that a BBQ on a slide-out connected to the gas bayonet fitting is now considered a fixed installation. Likewise, a BBQ attached to the slide-out but connected to a separate gas bottle is also an ‘installation’. However, if you have the BBQ sitting on a free-standing table beside the caravan and connected to a free-standing gas bottle, then no problems.

Once I had the Sizzler set up, I picked up a green chopping board you can just see underneath it, marked out where the feet were then cut out holes for the feet. I then bolted the board to the tray so the BBQ can’t slide around but can simply be lifted out if you want to use it separately. For travel, I used the fridge tie-down strap and added a square U bolt to the tray behind the BBQ.

UPDATE – Jan 2023:

The Sizzler BBQ has been giving us a hard time in any winds, blowing out so easily up to a couple of times a minute (useless). Back and forth conversations with the manufacturer asking to adjust the flame out detection devices and adjust the air centuries, no change. Have spoken with a few other users and they say the same. One user had sent his back to the manufacturer after trying all the above mods they mentioned and they stated they couldn’t fault it but changed the jets for the next size up and replaced the valve. So after almost 12 months persevering with ours I bit the bullet and sent it back too. I was contacted with a few videos showing it working fine, simulating wind by waving a small piece of cardboard near the BBQ. I wrote back stating I was not impressed with that and they agreed to do the same as the other user mentioned and replaced the valve and upgraded the jets. Its on it way back now and will see how it goes.

UPDATE – March 2023

The BBQ came back, they had replaced the valves and increased the jet sizes as discussed, they also provided a hose and regulator for direct to bottle connection, stating that usually the problem was clogged up regulators and lines too thin on the caravan reducing the gas pressure. It wasn’t our issue as our van was only 3 years old and all other appliances worked flawlessly. I have used it a few times since and most recently in 10 to 20kmh winds. Lighting and keeping alight for the first few minutes was a challenge but it was quite windy. Once the burners got hot and started to glow red I could turn it down to minimum and it kept running perfectly. Much better. Obviously in 30kmh+ winds it blows out, but that normal and I accept that is not a fault of the BBQ.

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13 Responses

  1. Kim says:

    Hi Dave.Have purchased the same fridge slide but wondering how you removed the slide from the base for fitting? Thanks. Kim

    • Dave says:

      Hey Kim, slide the tray out and along the side of the black tray are 3 screws and nuts on the edge of each side. The furthest back screw you have to access through a hole in the slide mechanism, can’t remember if it’s all the way out or you have to slide in a bit to line up the hole with the screw. Made it so much easier.

      Hope that helps!

      Cheers, Dave.

  2. Kim says:

    Thanks Dave, it is off. Now getting in for drilling. Bit like working in a coffin!!

  3. Indie says:

    We have a Ziggy bbq on one of your slides on a brand new caravan. Is the distance from where the Ziggy sits far enough away from the van wall when using the bbq or should I be using some sort of heat shield please.

    • Dave says:

      Hey Indie, I had no problems at all with the BBQ being too close to the van. From memory they say it should be about 25cm away from flammable materials, however the side wall of the van is not exactly flammable. Anyway, it was plenty far and did not warm up the side of the van at all. Hope that helps!

  4. Melissa Langerman says:

    Hi I was wondering how the Sizzler is working after the upgrade? What was your problem with the Ziggy? Still tossing up about which way to go. Thanks for all the amazing info you have provided on your posts.

    • Dave says:

      Hey Melissa, thanks for your kind words! We use the BBQ a lot for pots and pans and frypans and the Ziggy we found just didn’t work to well. The trivet they provide doesn’t put the pots close enough to the flames. Only picked up the Sizzler yesterday from the post and re-installed this morning. Haven’t tested it yet! Have heard from others that theirs worked great after that so will see over the next couple of days. Having 2 burners and the grid sits a lot closer to the flames, pots and frypans worked heaped better.

  5. Mick says:

    Hey dave was looking at buying the sizzler is it working better now whe its a bit windy appreciate an honest opinion

    • Dave says:

      Hey Mick, yes working heaps better now. Heard of a few people with the same issue, the first one was before I sent mine back and the reason I sent it back. Was good to be fore armed with the knowledge of what they did to his (increased jet size and replaced the valves) and now ours stays alight. It does need to warm up for a minute or two and during that time can blow out, but then wind is no issue. They dont have a thermomenter option, so a $6 oven thermometer from Big W, the base folded back then wedged in the corner of the glass under the clips that hold the glass in works great.

  6. Andrew says:

    Hi, I like the setup with the sizzler and tray with extendable table but concerned my vans tunnel boot might be too small to fit it. Are you able to share the opening dimensions of your tunnel boot hatch so I can compare?



    • Dave says:

      Hey Andrew, sure can!

      Tunnel boot opening is 610mm wide × 345 high (with curved edge4s), internal is 630mm wide × 360mm high  × 2360 long.

      Hope that helps!

  7. Peter says:

    Hi Dave.Have you still got the Deluxe?are you happy with it?Is it big enough to cook a roast?Cheers Peter.

    • Dave says:

      Hey Peter, yep, still have it. Had issues with it staying alight when we first got it, but after a refit with larger jets it works great. I haven’t cooked a roast myself but it’s plenty big enough with the high lid. Done quite a few pizzas and steaks!

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